Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/13/2000 03:13 PM House HES

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HB 413 - INTENSIVE FAMILY PRESERVATION SERVICES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN DYSON announced the next  order of business as House Bill                                                              
No.  413,  "An  Act  relating  to  intensive  family  preservation                                                              
services; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE SHARON  CISSNA, Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor,                                                              
came forward to present HB 413.   She outlined HB 413 which allows                                                              
the Department of Health & Social  Services to create an intensive                                                              
intervention  just  before  the removal  of  children  from  their                                                              
parents into  state custody.  This  proposal is based on  a model,                                                              
called   Homebuilders,  that   has  been   successfully  used   by                                                              
Washington state since  1974.  Moreover, this model  has also been                                                              
successfully adapted  by close to  30 other states.   This program                                                              
is successful  because, even though  the family may  have received                                                              
similar services prior to the imminent  removal of their children,                                                              
the family  is truly in  crisis.  At  this juncture,  families are                                                              
willing  to accept  and are  searching for  a way  to safely  keep                                                              
their children at  home.  House Bill 413 lays out  the program and                                                              
steps that  would be  necessary to  implement  the proposal.   The                                                              
bill adds  language to existing  statutes to offer  more intensive                                                              
family preservation services than are available right now.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  said  the  first important  thing  is  the                                                              
child's safety in  the home and the maintenance of  that.  Section                                                              
2 provides  for the court to  enumerate the reasons  why intensive                                                              
services were  not provided  if they are  in the best  interest of                                                              
the child.  Section 3 adds intensive  family preservation services                                                              
to the person  having legal custody.  Section 4  adds six sections                                                              
to  the statutes,  beginning  with  the  addition of  a  statewide                                                              
program.   Basically  the initial  project would  be in one  area.                                                              
She  pointed  out  that  other  programs   have  found  it  to  be                                                              
successful  if  [the project]  starts  in  one area  and  achieves                                                              
saturation, meaning  there is enough  of that service to  meet all                                                              
the  needs,  and  then  move  to  other  sections  of  the  state.                                                              
Effectiveness  of   70  percent  is  required  in   this  program.                                                              
Although 70  percent is a very  high measurement, it  is necessary                                                              
because there has to be a program  that works.  Furthermore, it is                                                              
not  cost effective  if this  isn't an  improvement over  existing                                                              
services.    Other states  have  achieved  70 percent  and  better                                                              
effectiveness.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CISSNA  noted   that  the   bill  lays   out  the                                                              
eligibility of  services, the conditions  that are required  for a                                                              
family and  child to get these  services, and then the  section on                                                              
the  solicitation of  funding  sources is  provided  for, and  the                                                              
definitions  of each of  the terms  in the bill.   Section  6 says                                                              
before the  termination of  parental rights,  that it shall  offer                                                              
protective social services and then  also consider the eligibility                                                              
of  the child  and the  family for  intensive family  preservation                                                              
services.   Section 7 outlines a  study for the pilot  program and                                                              
essentially  lays  out  all  the  data  collection  required,  the                                                              
[format  of the]  final  report,  the job  of  the  person who  is                                                              
essentially  covered in  the  fiscal note,  and  what his/her  job                                                              
should be.  It  would be implemented by November  30, 2001 and the                                                              
person in  the position  would give a  report to the  governor and                                                              
give notice to the legislature that the report is prepared.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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SUSAN  KELLY,   Manager,  Family  Preservation   Services,  Family                                                              
Support  Services,   Prevention  Services  for   Families,  Family                                                              
Independence Agency (FIA), Michigan,  testified via teleconference                                                              
from Ypsilanti, Michigan  in support of HB 413.   Three times over                                                              
the last decade  she has been invited  to testify on the  value of                                                              
these  services  before the  House  Ways  and Means  Committee  in                                                              
Washington, D.C.  She is convinced  of the value of these services                                                              
because of the hope  she has seen with so many  vulnerable and at-                                                              
risk families.                                                                                                                  
MS. KELLY  said this hope  has been realized  for so  many at-risk                                                              
and multi-problem  families.  To  date her agency has  served over                                                              
80,000  children representing  about  35,000 families.   About  85                                                              
percent  of those  children have  been  able to  stay safely  with                                                              
their  families.   The FIA  follows up  on those  families a  year                                                              
after they have  terminated services.  A select  group of families                                                              
has been  followed for  several years.   This  program has  worked                                                              
well  in   Michigan  for  families,   children  and   tax  payers.                                                              
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MS.  KELLY  said  the  FIA took  the  position  that  parents  are                                                              
ultimately  responsible  for their  children  and that  government                                                              
doesn't  make a  very  good parent,  and  substitute families  are                                                              
never  as good  if  safety  can be  maintained  in  a child's  own                                                              
family.   There  are not  alternatives to  families, and  children                                                              
should  not  be   removed  from  their  families   without  strong                                                              
compelling evidence  that the child  can't remain safely  with the                                                              
family.   Child protection and child  safety should not  be pitted                                                              
against trying to find ways to really support families.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KELLY explained  that  the  federal government  maintains  an                                                              
entitlement to all  the states that children should  be removed if                                                              
they are in  harm's way or are  in danger.  The children  are also                                                              
entitled  through the  child protection  laws to  be protected  by                                                              
mandatory reporting  laws, but there is  a big gap in  the funding                                                              
stream from  Washington to  the states.   There is entitlement  to                                                              
move to child protection but there  isn't entitlement for children                                                              
with adequate  resources that enable  them to be cared  for safely                                                              
in their own home.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KELLY  said  the  system  must   move  from  a  child  rescue                                                              
mentality.   She  notes Alaska  has  a strong  zero tolerance  for                                                              
child abuse, and that needs to be  coupled with strong support for                                                              
families.   To  strengthen families  is one  of the  best ways  to                                                              
protect  children.   It is difficult  to tell  which families  are                                                              
hopeless  and thus  ways  need to  be found  to  work with  highly                                                              
volatile families.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON asked  Ms. Kelly if she believes that  HB 413 makes                                                              
family support services an entitlement  on the same level as child                                                              
protective services.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
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MS. KELLY  said if the  bill is structured  [in its  current form]                                                              
and is  in one jurisdiction,  no; however  she thinks  Alaska will                                                              
see some great success with it.   What will be seen is the freeing                                                              
up of resources.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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MS. KELLY noted the FIA has been  able to hold the line on out-of-                                                              
home-care  for  several  years  because   it  built  up  a  strong                                                              
prevention in family support.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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PRISCILLA    MARTIN,   Executive    Director,   National    Family                                                              
Preservation  Network,  Lobbyist, Behavioral  Sciences  Institute,                                                              
testified  from  Idaho.    She  said   it  is  important  for  the                                                              
legislature  to  pass  HB  413 rather  than  have  the  department                                                              
implement it because  then it becomes a part of  state policy, and                                                              
the integrity  of the  model can be  protected.  Washington  state                                                              
has had this model  for 25 years and there has  never been a child                                                              
death while  working with the family.   In regard to the  issue of                                                              
funding  and   implementation,  almost   all  states   use  family                                                              
(indisc.) dollars  for programs; however, states  with the highest                                                              
level  of commitment  of dollars  frequently make  use of  federal                                                              
funds through  a number  of programs.   Some  private   foundation                                                              
funds are also possibly available.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARTIN  noted the  real key to  implementation is  the support                                                              
from  the  child  welfare  agency.    It  is  essential  that  the                                                              
department  supports  this because  it  is the  one  who does  the                                                              
referrals.   The  Homebuilders  model has  been  replicated in  30                                                              
states and six foreign  countries.  She is not aware  of a success                                                              
rate  lower  than  75  percent.   On  the  cost  effectiveness,  a                                                              
researcher  has calculated  that  the  break even  point  is a  27                                                              
percent  success rate.    For every  dollar  invested into  family                                                              
preservation services,  the state  will save $3.43  in out-of-home                                                              
care  costs.    The  model also  works  very  well  with  minority                                                              
families.  The  organizations that she represents  stand ready and                                                              
willing  to help  implement this  model.   [HB 413  was heard  and                                                              
held.]                                                                                                                          

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